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by Tiger01
Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

There was / is no i - no self anywhere to be found but life keeps on lifing isn't it ? This "I" or "me" can't be found... There is body.. There are sensations... There are urges... There is thoughts.. There is becoming serious or funny.. But there is no controlling "I" anywhere... nothing Just thou...
by Tiger01
Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:18 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

What says it is effort ? So what is /where is this effort you are mentioning ? :) Life can take shape like this or that.. It is only the thoughts saying "this is happening like this, this is happening like that" So what is money making ? What is eating healthy ? Being kind ? Aren't these nothing bu...
by Tiger01
Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

What happens if we drop believing what thought says ? Just say i am not this body / i am not the thoughts. How does it feel ? There is noticing of "I" appearing in thoughts. And then there is whatever IS... It is relaxing sometimes. Sensations are painful (may not be related to any of this) Wheneve...
by Tiger01
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:01 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

I was looking at what comes up when i refer to tiger(real name)

When eyes open, it automatically points to this image of body and not to any other image/color
With eyes closed, it rolls back to attention that shifts between different sensations and not to any specific sensations
by Tiger01
Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

but does really sensation comes from thought ?
No. The acknowledgement of existence of sensations happens via thought.
What links them ?
Thoughts about it
I'm not exactly sure what's being pointed here
by Tiger01
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

I've continued the looking and this is where I am. Generally I do the looking or meditation with eyes closed... There are thoughts or commentary There are tingling alive sensations There is attention Somehow I exist or I am but I am clearly not the first 2 bcz there is experience of them. And existi...
by Tiger01
Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

Hey, Yesterday was on a trek on a local hill range. What I found was thought affect emotional states. For a while I was upbeat and then the thoughts were about how exciting it would be. But after a while thoughts got dark, wanting to just give up and I was feeling trekking to be very tiring. Thought...
by Tiger01
Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:04 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

I'm not 100% convinced but, In AE, "I" or "me" is a thought. "I am this body or whatever this thing is" is also a thought "I exist" is also a thought Thought is noise! Its' like a sophisticated recommendation system like the one u find or amazon or netflix! I'm not sure what thought can do! I feel i...
by Tiger01
Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:09 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

What did you find when dong this exercise? Everything seemed beautiful. Even the failures. Sometimes it looked funny! Most importantly it was silent and in a flow motion. Is the commentary on the soccer game a necessity for the play to happen? No And in the same way, is the inner narration of thoug...
by Tiger01
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:10 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

That exercise was relaxing in a way. There is color here. There is sounds here. There is sensations here. There is thought patterns. Nothing is actually causing much problem. But there is this voice/movement going on... No this can't be it. These surroundings must be better, I'll make more money and...
by Tiger01
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

Normally we believe that the sensation is coming from the sight, the ‘object’ seen (hand). But if you look, is there any link between the sensation and the sight? In other words, is the sensation ‘coming from’ the sight (labelled as hand) or only thoughts and mental constructs link them? Mental con...
by Tiger01
Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:17 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

All right let's continue! I don't want to do half job :P

Where shall I start?


Cheers! XO
by Tiger01
Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

Before we freeze this conversation, when i said there is something behind the eyes. My experience is that attention occupies a place a few inches behind the eyes and is directed at the eyelids in front. And this attention gets directed to various sensations when necessary. So the source or the resti...
by Tiger01
Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:17 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

Hey Adil, I came to a simple clarity that there is body, mind and attention/awareness. I have seen the tyranny of illusion self and i don't really delude myself that often. I can see the body does things based on conditioning and no amount of thought will change that. Let's freeze this thread for a ...
by Tiger01
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:51 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten
Replies: 163
Views: 8432

Re: Help me see reality - Guide request : adilerten

Morning Adil! Is there a “you” thinking or just thoughts flowing by themselves without a thinker? If you say "they flow them selves" so for whom they appear ? Where is the person they appear TO ? Thoughts flowing.. They appear to attention or the movement that is illuminating various sensations, tho...

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