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by forgetmenot
Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:05 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hello Scott, You are going to have to read what I post several times very carefully. Learning to see things differently ie learning to LOOK instead of thinking takes time and can become very frustrating because we are so used of thinking rather than LOOKING at what actually is. Language is also a ba...
by forgetmenot
Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:41 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

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Hello Scott, Instead the prescribed looking exercise made me realize that knowing could be another type of thought to look for, distinguish, dissect and explore. There are word thoughts, image thoughts, so why not knowing thoughts? Maybe knowing is one thought recalling a stored previous thought. Wh...
by forgetmenot
Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:03 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

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Hello Scott, How does the thought “here is a cup” in this exercise point to experience other than that of thought? It points to a thought which is a judgement / interpretation of raw experiences. I still am not totally clear with the distinction between raw experience and knowing of raw experience, ...
by forgetmenot
Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:05 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hello Scott, When a thought is seen only as a container, and the content of a thought (what it’s about) is being ignored - this is what is called actual experience of a thought....So, we can say, that in actual experience, the arising of a thought (the container) is real, but what it’s ABOUT, the co...
by forgetmenot
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:40 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hello Scott, 1. AE = Raw experience + thoughts: labels/interpretations/meanings descriptions of raw experience + thoughts about those thoughts... In other words, everything you experience (I elaborate in point 4). For now; I will avoid thinking about what is experiencing since that seems to adversel...
by forgetmenot
Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:12 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hello Scott, None of your responses come from looking...they are all thought based. ‘Looking’ is just plain looking at actual/direct experience (AE), which is simply colour (image), sound, smell, sensation, taste, and the simple knowing of thought at face value that is appearing right now in the mom...
by forgetmenot
Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:01 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

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Hi Scott, Please look very carefully. How is it known that “thought are at times involuntarily pulling attention to other thoughts”? I become aware focus shifted from thought A (the original thought I tried to focus on) to thought B. So did the focus shift, or did the thought change? This is a good ...
by forgetmenot
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:25 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

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Hello Swendell, Focus on focusing, attention itself. Do you move it, or it moves by itself? Hold focus on breath - see how it moves to thoughts, sensations, feelings, sounds. Is this something you control? What moves attention? Can anything be found that moves attention, or does attention/focus move...
by forgetmenot
Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:09 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hello Swendell, Bring your attention to the soles of your feet and notice the sensations for several minutes. Now, clap your hands together and notice the sensations. Without thought how is it known that the sensations are different? Do the sensations themselves suggest in any way that they are diff...
by forgetmenot
Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:09 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

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Hi Swendell, How many things do you find? Are there two things (hand and table) or is there just the actual experience of sensation? Just the AE of various sensations. How is it known that there are ‘various sensations’? Bring your attention to the soles of your feet and notice the sensations for se...
by forgetmenot
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:09 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hi Swendell, What is known (actual experience) is label/thought + sound + colour + thoughts ABOUT air conditioning fan, but is an ‘air conditioning fan’ actually known? No, I can actually experience and know sensations and thoughts but again, No, I can not directly actually experience an object. So ...
by forgetmenot
Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:15 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hello Swendell, Without thought, can it be known that the sound heard is ‘air conditioning fan’? No Exactly. There is sound which is actual experience. Then a thought arises and labels it ‘air conditioning fan’. Further to the labelling thought, we have thoughts arising like how the sound is contain...
by forgetmenot
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:52 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hi Swendell,

Can you please ensure you answer ALL questions that are in blue. You missed the following

What is the actual experience (AE) of sound labelled as ‘air conditioning fan’? Is it AE of smell, taste, sensation, sound, or colour?

Kay
by forgetmenot
Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:34 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hello Swendell, Also I did not get a notification on April 1st that you had replied to this thread. I thought something was off, so I checked just now and found your comment, sorry about that. What time Zone are you in? Generally, I respond to posts as soon as I get them. If I am going to be delayed...
by forgetmenot
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:52 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: My question
Replies: 36
Views: 668

Re: My question

Hello Swendell, The questions were a means to seeing what expectations you have as everyone has some idea about what they think it would be like to realise that they are not the separate self they think themselves to be. There is so much information around now with so many people describing their ex...

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